"Once upon a midnight dreary..."
Some critics have said that "The Raven" by Edgar Allan Poe is one of the most romantic poems ever written. Why do you think this might be so? Do you agree or disagree with this contention? Why?
posted by Bunje at 10/29/2006 03:02:00 PM
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i think it could have been a romantice in its own time period. but now its just strait up creepy.
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I think that it's a little bit romantic in a way. Because he's probaly talking about his wife. And in a way it's just creepy.
I somewhat think that is a romantic love poem. The then again i think it was meant to tell you about his life, and what he thought about it. But now it is just scarey for some.
I disagree. I really dont think this is a romantic poem at all. His "lost lenore" maybe that could be some-what romantic but I really dont think so. And this poem kind of got on my nerves because at the end the crow said 'nevermore'. The poem was confusing.
Speaking to Aimeeh, the crow saying nevermore is showing how he will never be able to be with his love ever again, his love is, never more. This is a very romantic poem showing Poe's extreme love for his lost lenore. For anyone that knows Poe's background, Poe had lost many of Women he cared about and missed them greatly. In todays sense this could be compared to a break up song, instead your love dies, in which the song expresses a feeling of loss, like a piece was missing from ones soul. That is why the poem is so dark because it is not a happy thing when one's love dies. This poem shows great love because it shows the sorrow of great loss.
it might be romantic to some people but it is more creepy
I personally didnt really find the story apealing to me, and(thats just my opinion and I have the right to feel anyway)I dont think it was really romatic! He was obessed with the girl Lenor if you ask me. He was calling out her name in most of the lines and seemed to me he was going crazy over her.Referring back to the Raven as a symbol in the story made me feel really weird! Maybe in others eyes its romatic story but not making the story scary there is nothing romantic about that.
I dont think this poem is that romantic he is just missing the one that he loved and now he sees her as a spirt..but not as a human as the raven. The raven is symbolyzing his love for her and that she is watching over him.
I agree with the statement. " The Raven" is a romantic comedy it is a romantic comedy because all the guy can think about is his wife. Everytime he thinks of something he thinks of his wife. But everytime the raven made a noise he thought it was his wife coming back from the dead. She is always on his mind, and he did not know if he wanted to keep a talking raven because he thought that it would go away just like his wife did. He loved her dearly and thats why it was such a romantic short story.
I do agree with this contention because I feel as if his dark and dreary ways of writing are just an expression of how hurt he is to have lost his wife. I think the key or mesage behind this poem is that he will never really forget or move on from his wife in which he loved. That too me is really sweet and romantic. The author speaks so highly of love and how no matter what real love can't ever be taken away. All and alll I strongly feel that even with the dark and unhappy way of this writng; I do feel as if it is romantic.
I believe that critics are correct when they say that “The Raven” by Edgar Allen Poe is one of the most romantic poems ever written because of the fact that it speaks of a love so great, that even death could not take it away. The main character in poem, who lost his love, still dreams about her, and wants to be with her. This shows that he truly loves her. This could prove that true love does last forever, even after death. An unknown writer once wrote, “There’s no past tense in loving someone. It’s either you do, or you never did.” When thinking about this quote along with the context of the poem, it makes it seem even more romantic. True love is hard to find but it seems like the characters in "The Raven" found a love that lasts forever.
well to this day,as i read the story i thought it was very dark and a romantic story to me is sweet and bright and doesnt start with once upon a midnight deary like it could but the rest of the story doesnt have to sound so dark.but back than they had like a gothic era.so i could understand why it was written like that.because it was such a dark period of time.but now its a new era,new generation and something like that now a days,would sound wierd
I think that critics say that because he lost his true love. He thinks everything that is happening is his wife's spirit and she is trying to contact him or something. I think that it is romantic because his every thought has to do with her. It shows the affection he had for her and still has. He misses the romantic encounters. So yea, I think it is romantic.
I dont think the Raven is one of the most romantic poems ever written, but it is romantic in a creepy way. The man is in love with a women who pasted away but his love is still there for her. Hes gone crazy for her and that is true love because know matter what happens he still loves that her and it shows how much he truely cared about her. The story was kinda hard to understand because of some of the words but you get the point in the end.
Hmm . yes this poem has a romantic twist to it , seeing as the raven symbolizes the spirit of his dead wife , but no i don't agree that this is one of the most romantic poems ever written . if anything , it's eery , but has , like i said , a romantic twist to it . there's been more romantic written . it's still an amazing piece of work , though .
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i wouldn't go as far as the most romantic poem ever. I was kind of creepy. iliked how he used all the symbolizations. If you didnt get it at first you probly feel the same as me.
i dont think its the MOST romantic poem ever, but i guess if you think about it, it is kind of romantic. basically he's just saying how much he misses his wife. but the poem comes off mostly creepy, not really romantic.
i wouldnt say that creating insane images of a raven in replace of a dead wife romantic, its more of a tragidy. he's moarning the loss of his loved wife which is just sad and the way he handled it was a little creepy if you ask me.i also think that it may have started as romantic but just lead to more of an obsession. i wouldnt find it romantic if thats how my husband thought of me when i deid.
i think the reason that critics have called "the raven" one of the most romantic poems ever is due to its deep symbolism and the variety of meanings each symbol in the poem could represent. i do not agree with this poem being the most romantic poem because it is very creepy and eerie to alot of people and also if you do not understand the symbolism, this poem does not seem romantic at all. also, the darkness of this poem makes it not very romantic unless you think deeply about every last symbol and detail in this poem. lastly, showing deep love for a dead wife may not be as romantic as showing deep love for a living wife to most people(but thats just my opinion).
I definitely wouldn't say that "The Raven" is romantic. Especially how that British narrarator was telling it. Besides that, it wouldn't be romantic because how can getting reminded of your wife's death by a creepy bird that says nothing but "Nevermore" be romantic? I see no romance in it at all. Maybe in some twisted freaky way to the man in the story it is, but I just think it's weird. "The Raven" isn't really one of my favorites of Poe's work. But it was alright.
in MY OPION IT IS NOT ROMATIC AT ALL INSTEAD I FEEL AS THOUGH IT IS QUITE DISTURBING AND IT SHOWS AN OBSSESION THAT THE MAIN CHARACTER HAS WIT HIS ONCE LIVING WIFE
In my opinion, "The Raven" makes a very good romantic novel. In response to what Joe B. said, Edgar Allen Poe did lose many women in his life. He is showing his losses in his writing and telling how he feels about losing this one woman that effected him so greatly. The representation of the Raven is a voice that is telling him to forget the woman that he has just lost,and he does not want to forget what he has lost. He wants to remember everything about this woman and he curses the Raven in exasperation.
i don't think that i would say it is one of the most romantic poems of all time, but i can see how one could think that. this poem doesnt seem to be as meaningful to contemporary audiences as it probably would have been to audiences during the time that it was written. if you read deeply into the poem you can see the level of romance but if read casually its just creepy.
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I think it's a romantic poem to an extent. Reason being the Raven seems more of like a sad poem about a love one, but yet again it is Edgar Allen Poe. I think that its kind of like a grieving poem more then anything. Maybe he did love someone and they got taken away from him and sadly died. Maybe he is just trying to relieve the grieving process of missing that loved one.
The Raven is a sad and romantic poem at the same time. In my opinion it's a way of him telling himself that he wishes his wife would be alive. His mind plays tricks on him but at the same time he doesn't believe its reality. Its romantic in a weird creepy way because the whole concept is that he misses his first and only love. By him seen this bird he thought it symbolized or it was his wife. The man was just madly in love you can't judge him for trying to have a memory of his wife even though for him it shows to be an obsession.
i dont think that the raven is one of the most romantic peoms written i actually find it kind of freaky. but i can understand how some would think of it as romantic because in the era that it was written all literature was written in a dark gothic type way.
I think that the raven isn't so romantic at all. To me i think that it may become confusing when it comes to the scarey parts and the way it shows it horror side. maybe ity could be but it would be hard differeing it because of the way it is written in a scarey minor.
Poe has a hidden romantic side to him, even though most of his poems are dark and creepy. In most, his lover(or his friends lover) has died and he basicly whines over the loss, which shows deeper emotion. Think of it as emo kids. Emo kids are always complaining about how their life is so bad, but their really sweet when you go out with them. So in a way, Poe was the first ever Emo Kid.
I have no clue why they would say that it is the most romantic peom written maybe back then but not now. And I disagree because romance is not suppose to be dark and mysterious.
i really dont know nothing about him but as much as i read his story i would that mabe a little
i see were there are bits of romance here and there but i do not agree that the raven is one of the most romantic. i would have to disagree with the critics.
i disagree i dont think its one of the most romantic poems. its very erie and creepy and isnt that loving. its a very interesting and good poem but its not quite the romantic one.
In my opinion, I disagree. I dont think that the Raven is one of the most romantic poems ever written. It might be one of the most romantic poems of that time period, but not today. There are many other poems I can think of that are better. That was a depressing time for Edgar Allen Poe and his life wasnt exactly a fairy tale, so it was probably based on his life more so than romance.
The poem is really a romantic one masked in a gothic horror surrounding. Poe longs for the lost Lenore. He, in the end, goes mad over the fact. The poem IS romantic because he obviously loved this woman so much that the despair of losing her made him insane.
i dont know wat to say about this one because i never under stood it
The Raven was a very interesting poem, but very hard to follow so i would have to say that i thought it was more eery then romantic. His words were so deep and detailed so good. I would have to disagree, The Raven by Edgar Allen Poe was not a romantic poem.
personally i dont see the raven as being a romantic poem but i do think that it is a little creepy.
Although some critics might say Edgar Allen Poe has the most romantic poems i would have to disagree. To me his poems are very creepy and confusing. Some people may say its romantic because in this poem he talks about someone he love. But thats not really romantic to me.
I completely disagree because that book was very dark and haunting. It was very scary and disturbing i think that some people see it to be romantic but not to me. Who is in love with there cousin. that is very nasty. People are very crazy if they think that book was very romantic. Sorry if u think something else.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The poem was very depressing. It was more sad then romantic, but then again, if you lose your love you would be sad too. I fould it somewhat creepy too beening in a hauted house and all. So I would have to disagree beace the poem was really sad and with each ending line (nevermore) going with it. I know he really missed her and he really loved her if he got real depress after passed away. I like romantic poems something that can make you smile not cry, but thats my opion.
i feel as though this poem was mor sad then romantic. i feel this way because of the way the poem was written. it was all creepy and sad. but i do under stand were he is coming from because if i lost a love on or some one i cared about i would feel the same way but then again he could of made the peom less creepy and more romantic. but thats just my opion someone else might think differently!!
Well i dont feel as though the Raven is a romantic story. To me it seems to be more sad than romantic. In the Raven he looses his love and i dont see anything romantic about that. Even though i dont think its romantic i think others think it is because the state of mood might be romantic to those who think it is. Overall i disagree that it is romantic but that is my opinion.
I do think that The Raven is a very romatic poem. During the whole poem he could not help but think about his wife. Any person that would think of another with so much passion must be showing a romantic side.I have never read a poem with so much passion but still seem so dreary at the same time. It's one of the most amazing combinations that I have heard. But I still think that the poem is on the darkside. It is not a really even poem though I think its more dark than warm and loving,but it's still romantic.
In my opinion, The Raven was meant to be romantic but not in an obvious way. Poetry can be misjudged by the reader but at the same time can open up your mind to different opinions and styles of writting. I feel The Raven was romantic on a very low level, the fact that he loved his wife was clear but it was not something I feel should be considered one of the most romantic poems ever written.
Yes, I think that The Raven, was a romantic poem. The whole thing was about the loss of his girlfriend, or wife, and how much he missed her. Whats not romantic about that? You have to understand that Poe was a dark writer, so in his opinion it was probably very romantic, and maybe one of the nicer poems he's written, his style is just more dark.
i agree that the raven was a romantic poem. since the poem was dedicated to the loss of his wife, obviously it had something to do with love. it revealed that he was depressed because of losing her which shows how much he really was in love with her.
Well, I think that it is a romantic story because hes expressing how much he loved his wife that he lost. This story is very depressing because its his emotion that he has due to the lost of his wife.
i disagree because i dont think it was a romantic peom i thought it was a bad, creepy peom about the death of lenore. i think it is a romantic peom back in the day when people use to really pay attention to the songs and understand it.
I think its one of the most romatnic poems becuase its about some guy who is talken to a raven but its really suppose to be if dead wife and yeah i agre it is a very romantic poem because the guy obvisly misses his wife so he is imaging a raven as her:]
All I remember about this poem is that I could hardly understand any of it. So I have no idea what to write on this one.
In my opinon i think the Raven by edgar Allan Poe was suppose to be both a crazy and romantanic i mean i can see how losing his wife was sad then when he start hearing all the noises and things it started getting real crazy real fast ,but since it was mainly bout his lost wife then yes i think it should be considered romantic , crazy but romantic. also obviouly it shows the sympath of the character and i felt that was a sign of romance.
personally i belive that the raven is not a romantic poem at all. If you really read the poem the raven you will see that the main even in it is the raven repetidly saying, "Nevermore" , "Nevermore". it hounts him while he tries to sleep. the raven i think signifies his dead wife hounting him. now how is a dead wife hounting you one of the "Most Romantic Poems Ever?" i feel like its not romantic at all. i sure wouldnt find it romantic having my dead wife hounting me in the form of a raven.
I can understand why they might say that because he really must have loved her if he keeps having these events in his life that are relivent to her. However, I disagree because I think that it is one of the creepiest poems ever! Poe really knows how to give you the chills and to me that is not romantic! haha. It is a great poem, but is is way to wierd and creepr to be one of the most romanic poems ever!
me as in myself as in the josh as in the one and only cannot honestly say that i agree with that. this poem first of all is too long you lose interest. then those sorry behind words that just make me tired and bored listening to that so called poem. some people love his poetry but it just sounds like he wants someone to feel bad for him.he is just whining and whining with that nevermore crap. if i wanted to hear someone complain i would rather sit next to my grandma and let her whine in my ear and maybe i'll feel more sorry for her because edgar allen poe's poetry isn't amusing all maybe those poems are like the side affects from the drugs and the alcohol.hey maybe he was just really lonely that raven is probably the reason he killed himself.
To tell you the truth i think Edgar allen poe is a cool writer but out of all the stories, i didnt get this one. But from what i understood i think it wouldnt be romantic to this age because he basically wrote about how he felt and he felt pretty bad. thats not something you write to someone as a poem to get their interest in you. Probally interest in you in the way she would think you have issues or think your crazy. So in my opinion i wouldnt youse it to write it as a poem to someone like i said
Poe is one of my favorite writers, i enjoy dark literature. The raven did confuse me a little bit. Yes it did drag on and get boring but I'm not going to trash Poe like Josh D did? Even though he did drugs you cannot deny that his writing was detailed and interesting on some level. I do not believe this poem is romantic maybe if it was broken down by Poe himself i would feel different. The poem just seems creepy then romantic.
I would say that it is because of a couple reasons. First off it talks about losing a loved one and how he cant cope with the fact that he lost her. And the crow that comes in and frankly telling him nevermore which in my eyes means he cannot ever have her again.
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